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Atlas Butler Heating And CoolingComplaints
Customer Complaints Summary
- 29 total complaints in the last 3 years.
- 11 complaints closed in the last 12 months.
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Initial Complaint
Date:10/18/2023
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Description: We had Atlas Butler to our new home to check for a gas leak. They did not find a leak and told us that our furnace was the problem. We had our furnace guy out and he said that the furnace was fine. The gas company came back out to turn the gas on and said that we have 3 leaks by the manifold. Atlas Butler charged us a whopping $874.71 for this trip. They did put a new flapper on the toilet and grounded the CSST pipe. I don't think we should have to pay for the $428.57 they charged us for testing for leaks since they didn't find it and we have now had to pay 2 other people to fix what they should have fixed on the first trip!!!Business Response
Date: 10/19/2023
Atlas Butler refunded $428.57 to the original payment method on September 1st of 2023. Is the client looking for an additional refund?Customer Answer
Date: 10/19/2023
The issue has been resolved. Thank you. *** ******
Initial Complaint
Date:09/25/2023
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Scheduled service 8/8/23 to have new toilet installed with a note to have the plumber inspect the flange/floor as I suspected there might be damage. During the visit the tech reported that the flange was fine but warned me the tile was not level. When signing off on the service I saw he noted “the floor and flange might need redone” if I had issues, but I thought that was odd since he told me the flange was fine and the floor was the issue. I was happy with his service, paid $297.57 (invoiced #*******) and gave him a good ****** review. After the visit, I smelled sewer so I called the company back. 2 new techs came 8/28/23 and told me “the flange was completely rotted out and the homeowner is in need of a floor repair…”. I called the tech who initially installed the toilet and he told me that he did not remove the spacer (which was above the flange). At this point, I realized that he did not do a full inspection as I had requested. If he did, he would have seen the flange was completely destroyed and the floor was rotted out. Instead, I had to wait for the wax ring to fail (letting sewer gas in ) and calling the company to return to report to me that the flange and floor were rotted. I reported the issue to Atlas Butler 9/11/23 and waited a week for someone to call me back. No one called and customer service rerouted the ticket from the lead to the manager and sent him emails. The plumbing manager finally called me back and was incredibly rude and stated that the tech did exactly what was in scope in the work order. He offered to reinstall the toilet for free, but because I was so disappointed with how I was being treated, I simply wanted a refund of the $297. He was going to call the tech to discuss it and return my call. I waited another week for a call back with no luck. I called the office and was told another manager was going to call me back. No response. It’s going on 11 business days of trying to get a response from the company.Business Response
Date: 09/26/2023
It was explained top the client that the flange was in bad shape and that the floor was unlevel. Even with this knowledge, the client still decided to have toilet installed. The plumber installed shims underneath the toilet and caulked around the base. He also restated in his service summary that if any issues arise then that flange would need to be replaced and the floor repaired in that spot. Once the client called in afterwards, AB sent an additional plumber to the home prompting him to say yet again that the flange was in bad shape as well as the floor. The original service invoice was signed by the client indicating knowledge about the condition of the flange and flooring around the toilet. AB performed the requested service ad cannot offer a refund. We have offered to come back to reset the toilet for free after repairs to the floor have been completed.Customer Answer
Date: 09/28/2023
I am rejecting this response because the business response is not true. The technician told me the flange was fine. I specifically asked him. Furthermore, upon a follow-up phone call with the technician, he told me that he did not remove the spacer (which sites above the flange) so that he would have no way to truly inspect the condition of the flange. The only issue that he verbalized was that my floor was unlevel.
Regards,
***** *******Business Response
Date: 10/03/2023
After speaking with the plumber and his manager there is no recollection of parts being made available to him outside of the toilet itself. All we have to go by is the signed document that we have on file. The client requested to have a toilet installed and that service was completed by our plumber. Based on our records, the client was informed of issues with the floor and the flange and agreed for install to continue. She even signed a document stating the issues therefore agreeing that the requested work had been completed. Again, as a courtesy we will return to reinstall toilet free of charge after other repair work has been competed, but we cannot offer a refund since we did in fact perform the requested service. The attached receipt is of common items that are associated with having a toilet replaced, it does not indicate that there are any issues. If the client can offer some evidence of wrongdoing, then we will absolutely provide a refund as it is the right thing to do. But for now, all we can do is go based off of what we have in the system which is a signed copy of a service summary indicating that work was done and that the floor is uneven as well as the flange.Customer Answer
Date: 10/04/2023
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Complaint: 20653066
I am rejecting this response because: I'm done fighting here and any consumer can see the true colors of the company. At first they said that I never requested the flange to be inspected when I called to request the install. Then the plumbing manager ignored the image that I sent him showing my concern for the floor (which was outside of this compliant). Then they inferred that I was lying when their tech told me the flange was fine, and then they subsequently inferred that I was lying after showing proof that I purchased the repair flange just a few days before service to use in case it was needed. What a prime example of **** poor customer service.
Regards,
***** *******Initial Complaint
Date:07/20/2023
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Two years ago I paid $9000 for a unit. They have been out multiple times but nothing has been fixed. I have a 2 year warranty and it is about to run out.
On 6.5.23, a tech came out and cleaned the ducts for just over $500. he was here 4 hours. On 7.16.23, I called them to say that black soot was coming out of the vents. The same tech came out today and he said he did not see any dirt. I showed him the dirt I had cleaned up.
I think they installed a dud furnace.
At some point a tech told me there is a part in the furnace which needs to be replaced. I think they will not replace it until the warranty runs out.
A furnace should at least last 10 years.
Business Response
Date: 07/20/2023
Atlas Butler has been dispatched a total of 4 times to address issues with the system we installed. Each of those times it was discovered that there were no issues with the unit itself, rather there was an issue with a lockbox being around the thermostat which caused incorrect cycling. Our Duct Cleaner was dispatched today to the clients home for a follow up to the black soot the clients said she was seeing. There were no signs of any such debris or dirt within the ducts. The technician pulled apart several components of the system and nothing was found that matched the client's description.Initial Complaint
Date:07/13/2023
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
As part of the maintenance plan a technician came to my house to tune-up the ac. Technician stated that an animal was chewing on the wire and that we would need to replace the wires. Next we were approached telling us that it would be cheaper to replace the furnace because of its age. I received a quote along with pictures of the inside of the furnace to show me rust. Rust is expected as iron oxidizes in the presence of water and air. The air is working fine. I almost agreed to the installation until they asked if I wanted to include a UV light for 800. This is when I knew it was a scam. The salesperson called while I was in class. I requested that he call back in 30 minutes. He stated that he couldn’t and insisted that he provide with me with quotes. He then told me I could get it installed the next day but I would have to sign the paperwork today. Salesperson and tech must have thought I was stupid. I ‘m cancelling my Comfort Membership tomorrow.Business Response
Date: 07/19/2023
After reviewing the service notes for this visit and viewing all attached photos, we have concluded that the technician was right with his diagnosis. The UV light is an optional item that can be added to help prevent bacteria preventing them from circulating throughout the home. At this time a billing adjustment cannot be made as there is evidence of the systems condition.Customer Answer
Date: 07/22/2023
I have had an Elite membership for 8+ years with Atlas Butler. Subsequently, I have made sure to take advantage of the biannual routine service checks. This is to ensure our HVAC unit is up to par. As of recent every “free” checkup has ended in a technician stating that some major repair is needed. It is interesting that the repairs suggested are always the same price of a new unit. In essence, this is similar to me taking my car to get an oil change (by the way my car is the same age as my unit) and then being told that I need a repair that will cost as much as a new car. All of the company’s actions are suspect. Technicians are jr. sales people that are coached to upsale products. I don’t care what your assessment was you attempted to take advantage of a senior citizen in a disadvantaged neighborhood. You stated that his smoking was causing the ac unit to breakdown. The freon was low.(Tell me how this happens in a closed system with no leak?) An animal urinated on the system. (How could you see or smell this after several instances of rain previously). Then to top it off the technician told me “don’t be surprised if they quote you a new furnace too.” Yet you were not expecting a wife that is highly educated with a science background to follow-up your assessment. Your salesperson is rude. I asked him to call back because I was in class. He stated he couldn’t because he had another appointment. He then proceeded to talk about estimates and how he had 2 openings for installation the next day. Initially I agreed to having an AC unit installed. The sales rep asked me to “text him” my credit card number. Because I was under pressure and away from the house, it was difficult to assess the situation fully. I was relying on third party information. Needless to say when I got home, after talking with my husband I realized that this was all a hustle. I cancelled the install. My ac unit is working fine. Just like before anyone came to “service” the unit. Do better Atlas Butler. At some point your company has loss its integrity. You need to get back to that. I’m disappointed and hope that this encounter does not reflect the company’s standard of practice. My membership has been cancelled. Going forward I will proceed with using a more reputable company for our HVAC needs.
Regards,
****** *** ***** *****
Initial Complaint
Date:06/15/2023
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I am being charged monthly for a service I didn’t renew under the claim it was auto renewal but I never received any such message in the mail or via email. The person I talked with canceled this renewal but is trying to say they can’t refund me for this unwanted service that I didn’t even useBusiness Response
Date: 07/19/2023
Client was refunded on 6/19/23. Thank you.Customer Answer
Date: 07/21/2023
I accept the business's response to resolve this complaint.Initial Complaint
Date:06/08/2023
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Description: We purchased and had installed A/C and furniss with Atlas Butler on 7/10/1013. It was to be under warranty for 10 years parts and 5 years labor. We had issues with our A/C unit and called them to come out 5/15/2023. The tech stated the unit is no longer under warranty based on the sticker date on the system, 2012. He stated we would need to replace the system. A couple hours later, Steve M****** with Atlas Butler quoted us a coat to replace the system. It was expensive so we had Columbus Worthington Air provide quote as well. We did decide to have **** *********** *** complete the work. Atlas Butler finally called me back when we stated the we felt the system should still be under warranty stating that it was until 7/10/2023. We at this time already had **** *********** replace both units, per Atlas Butler recommendation to replace both units at once.Business Response
Date: 07/19/2023
The technician was not aware of any manufacturer's warranty until a call was made after the service call. The client was then notified of this so that an informed decision could be made. We are unable to refund an investment made with another company. We performed our due diligence on behalf of the client who then chose to invest with another company.Initial Complaint
Date:02/08/2023
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
They were supposed to fix my furnace, it was 90 dollars for a service call and the guy they sent just looked at it and said I needed a new furnace entirely. I thought they would come and actually fix mine but the only he recommended was replacement, which I can't afford. I want the money back for the service call because I thought they would fix my furnace but they didn't!Business Response
Date: 02/16/2023
the $89 was for a diagnostic fee. This only pays for AB to diagnose the issues and is completely separate from repair costs. After the initial diagnosis, the client has the option for repair or replacement. We cannot offer a refund at this time because services were rendered.Initial Complaint
Date:11/23/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I scheduled a service call on Nov 17th to see what was going on with my furnace. I paid 89.00 and the tech told me my blower was going out and that I would need a new furnace. I've since had 3 other HVAC techs to check it . All 3 reviewed the error my furnace was giving and let me know I need a pressure switch . The blower is fine. No noise and the furnace is running fine.Business Response
Date: 11/29/2022
We received a call from the client with a thermostat issue. According to our NATE certified technician's notes, the furnace was tripping on high limit safety switch causing air flow issues (in addition to burn spots on the heat exchanger). There was no mention of a blower going out. We ran our own tests and that was our professional opinion, so we are unable to offer a refund for this diagnostic trip.Customer Answer
Date: 11/30/2022
I am rejecting this response because: the tech told me it was my blower and I would need to replace it . He indicated it would probably be around 1500 to replace but since my furnace is 16 years old they would recommend replacing the furnace and that could be 5000 or more. He wanted to send a sales person out to measure the furnace.
Regards,
***** ****Business Response
Date: 12/05/2022
There is no record of a conversation concerning a blower. We were dispatched to perform a diagnostic and that is what was performed indicating that the furnace was tripping on high limit safety switch causing air flow issues which align with the original description of the issue provided on the initial phone call. Our technician did however recommend a replacement due to the age of the equipment as well as the condition of the heat exchanger. Again, there was no mention of a blower issue and we stand by our diagnosis. We are unable to offer a refund as services were rendered.Customer Answer
Date: 12/05/2022
I am rejecting this response because: I heard what he said to me. My furnace is fixed by a reputable company that isnt trying to sell me a furnace.
No need to respond since you were not here and not present for the conversation.
Regards,
***** ****Initial Complaint
Date:09/13/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
A couple weeks ago the A/C went out in my home. I called atlas butler and they sent a tech out. They priced the fan replacement at $4300. They said the part was $1200 and the labor would be an additional 3 grand. They then said at this price they would suggest replacing my entire furnace and A/C setup, as it was 6 years old and they only last 8-10 years and they charged me a $90 fee for this assessment. After this, I had two more companies come out, including Aire-Flo and both priced the part and labor at around $1500. Personally I think it is absolutely absurd they priced it at $4300. On top of that, I believe this was a shady business prscrice as they saw that my fiancé and I were young (32/28) first time home owners and priced the work high enough to be able to try to sell us an entire system. I believe they used this price to cause a panic/defeat response. I was also told by the two other techs that our system was a top line system that should last easily 16 years or more and in no way would they recommend a full replacement. I am looking to recover the $90 fee for examination because of this terrible experience and business practice After thisBusiness Response
Date: 09/13/2022
Atlas Butler has flat rate pricing that is dictated by a tiered system depending on the level of repair and may sometimes cost more than smaller companies. Our technician's diagnosis was correct, and it was backed up by the two other companies so we cannot offer a refund for said diagnosis because it was correct. The life of a furnace is a subjective topic that will yield multiple responses depending on who is asked. AB doesn't promote nor do we deal in unethical behavior or practices. Any opinion given is purely based on what we have seen and experienced during our 101 years of serving Central Ohio.Customer Answer
Date: 09/14/2022
I am rejecting this response because: the other two companies did not confirm your diagnosis. Your technician said the fan went out because it was old. In fact it was a power surge that knocked it out.
second, your technician was trying to sell me on an entire new system based on a price that was nearly 4 times the price of two other quotes and providing false information on how long a system should last.
it’s fine if your business relies on tricking young and new home owners into spending 4 times what they should, everyone we know will also now know this.
Regards,
***** ********Initial Complaint
Date:09/07/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Sept 2 ,We called for service because my aircon is not blowing that much cool air.A technician came .As soon as he walk in,all he said is ,I know whats wrong your unit is old and need replace ,without even trouble shooting it.Never touch the unit at all.He told us that we needed new furnace which will cost us between 15k to 20k then left.So that's our $89 dollars down the drain.Well we called a different company ,guest what ? He fix it in just 5 minutes. What's that tell's you? Lazy technician .Hmmm trying to scam us?Better do something about him.Business Response
Date: 09/13/2022
We apologize for this incident and will address with technician. We will refund $89 to the original payment method.
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